Ep 66 An atomic conversation

This week we talk to Grant and Darryl from Atomic. We talk about the early days of Xero (employee 5 and 6) and some time at BNZ – where Grant and Darryl had their first "Start up" experiences and BNZ, where they created the YouMoney banking platform. We also chat about the earlier days of "interactive" design and using graphics to tell stories – and how they came up with the "google docs" of design software. We have Alistair from Scoop join the conversation.

We also have a few words from PledgeMe CEO and founder, Anna Guenther - listen up as there’s something cool closing tonight which is Tuesday 15th September, 2015